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Times Union blogpost at http://blogs.timesunion.com/localpolitics/?p=484

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Don’t hold your breath…
August 1, 2007 at 8:28 pm by Paul Nelson
As of late Wednesday afternoon, Democrat Edward Kosiur had not called to congratulate 105th Assemblyman-elect George Amedore, according to Phil Oliva with the Amedore camp.

And it’s a good bet, that conversation between the two men who fellowship at the same church, may not be forthcoming anytime soon, if ever.

”I don’t think they should count on that call,” said Schenectady County Democratic Chairman Brian Quail when asked about the issue.

Instead, he said Kosiur, 51, of Schenectady, publicly acknowledged defeat on television Tuesday night, and didn’t have to necessarily go beyond that.

In fact, he said he is aware of several local elections where the loser never called to congratulate the winner.

As for what Kosiur thinks about all this or any other matters related issues, it’s hard to say because he isn’t talking.

The Democrat has failed to return several calls from the Times Union since getting trounced 13, 666 to 10,8555 in the race to replace a seat that former Assemblyman Paul Tonko held since 1983.

Tonko, now the head of the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, has reached out to Amedore, 38.

Amedore, who lives in Rotterdam, says Tonko called him and that the two men will work together from the residents of Montgomery and parts of Schenectady Counties, which make up the 105th.

Amedore will formally be sworn-in in at 10 a.m. Thursday at Veterans Park in on State Street in Schenectady where New York state Supreme Court Vito Caruso will do the honors. Then at noon, Amedore will do it all again in Amsterdam where Mayor Joseph Emanuele III will officiate.

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The Democratic Dictatorship in Schenectady county ASSUMED that they would win no matter what.
They have the party base, they have Tonko's word, they have their bigger and better baby blue Kosiur signs.

But I liked best of all what the Daily Gazette said at the end of their editorial...
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But the biggest and best message from this election may be that voters in Schenectady have a mind of their own, and they can't be manipulated or their votes taken for granted, no matter which party has the power.



Thank you! Daily Gazette. We're not really a bunch of sheeple. We know "fleece" when we see it and its not on our backs. It is definitely Brian Quail and the Savage Mother of Nine who are the wolves in sheeps clothing. But the non-sheep can see this, and won't be fooled by it.


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Times Union blogpost at http://blogs.timesunion.com/localpolitics/?p=484

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Don’t hold your breath…
August 1, 2007 at 8:28 pm by Paul Nelson
As of late Wednesday afternoon, Democrat Edward Kosiur had not called to congratulate 105th Assemblyman-elect George Amedore, according to Phil Oliva with the Amedore camp.

And it’s a good bet, that conversation between the two men who fellowship at the same church, may not be forthcoming anytime soon, if ever.

”I don’t think they should count on that call,” said Schenectady County Democratic Chairman Brian Quail when asked about the issue.


Instead, he said Kosiur, 51, of Schenectady, publicly acknowledged defeat on television Tuesday night, and didn’t have to necessarily go beyond that.

In fact, he said he is aware of several local elections where the loser never called to congratulate the winner.

As for what Kosiur thinks about all this or any other matters related issues, it’s hard to say because he isn’t talking.

The Democrat has failed to return several calls from the Times Union since getting trounced 13, 666 to 10,8555 in the race to replace a seat that former Assemblyman Paul Tonko held since 1983.

Tonko, now the head of the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, has reached out to Amedore, 38.

Amedore, who lives in Rotterdam, says Tonko called him and that the two men will work together from the residents of Montgomery and parts of Schenectady Counties, which make up the 105th.

Amedore will formally be sworn-in in at 10 a.m. Thursday at Veterans Park in on State Street in Schenectady where New York state Supreme Court Vito Caruso will do the honors. Then at noon, Amedore will do it all again in Amsterdam where Mayor Joseph Emanuele III will officiate.



I'm not surprised. Go cry in your milk Kosiur!  
Better yet, why don't you just find one of those toilets you couldn't sell and have yourself a good ****!

Crybaby! Poor whining loser!


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Always good to celebrate a victory.  One has to be careful in "celebrating" a defeat because that "celebration" may tell more about the celebrator than about the defeated.


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It would be interesting to simulate the outcome if the entire city of schenectady voted instead of just parts. I still think Kosiur would have lost but not by as much. The entire town of rotterdam looks to have come to vote for Amedore, who lives in rotterdam.

On a down note it is just one more mandate from town voters against the city, not like they had much of a choice since kosiur was a terrible candidate. I doubt we will see much of amedore's work here in the city though. I could be wrong and will have to wait and see.



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Brain Quail and Kosiur are proving both how small and unfit they are to serve the people. Quail still doesn't see any evidence that the sex offender relocation bill hurt Kosiur? Wake up, smell the sausage and peppers, Brian, and take another look at the returns. Amedore beat Kosiur in Duanesburg, worse than Kosiur beat Amedore in the City! This also proves that the City residents are finally waking up after decades of Democratic overspending and patronage hires.

     Back to Kosiur, what a sore loser. Amedore was very gracious in victory and could have said alot more to define your horrible record. Now its coming to light what a lie the 2,000 new jobs was. The County and City actually lost more jobs than they gained with Ed's Metrograft handouts. Ed Kosiur wasted $750,000 on a disgraceful campaign. He is unfit for public office at any level but don't worry Democratic stooges Ed is enjoying his long vacation(on the taxpayer dime of course) and will come back very soon to be a reliable yes man for the Savage Machine.
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Benny, do you think that this is a "time for a change" election with the electorate pretty much willing to vote for any "new-comer" who is willing to say, "I can make a difference."?  This happens in cycles on the local, state, and national levels.  Parties and individuals in power for too long can become autocratic, unresponsive, lazy, and corrupt.  In general, the electorate usually sees this and out they go.  Hooray for the United States!  I think in the "information age" the cycles will become increasingly short.  


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I don't think its a "time for a change" deal here. I believe that people saw Kosiur for what he is. A political hack pure and simple. Another puppet with his strings handled by his handlers.

We all know that individuals on their own have a nil chance of making a difference, but if enough people support their efforts a difference can be made.

And in celebrating a "victory" a defeat is also celebrated. I celebrated Amedore's victory and I especially celebrated Kosiur's defeat! So what does that "tell" about me!  


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I think people remember lumpy from his lame days on the city council. I think people questioned his methods of campaigning based on on nothing. I think people are getting tired of a once party game because no matter how you look at it, it just doesn't seem kosher (not kosier). Look at the guy, he looks like a shoe salesman in recovery.


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Fred LeBrun - http://www.timesunion.com
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Poor timing, perception doomed Democrat in 105th race  

  

First published: Friday, August 3, 2007

was supposed to be a super tight political contest turned out to be a runaway, a first-time Republican candidate prevailing in a special election for veteran Democrat Paul Tonko's seat in the 105th Assembly District.
It is, of course, foolish to read too much into this race, as much as we in the media love to do that.

It's not about Gov. Eliot Spitzer's shaky mandate, or Speaker Sheldon Silver's hold on the Assembly, or even Assembly Minority Leader Jim Tedisco's persuasive charms. truth, from a statewide perspective, this contest covering all of Montgomery County and about half of Schenectady County is an imperceptible blip on the political landscape. Assembly Democrats maintain a huge majority, regardless.

Still, for 24 years Paul Tonko pulled down 70 to 80 percent voting majorities while handily keeping his seat as a Democrat in a district where Democrats outnumber Republicans by nearly 4,000. So what gives? What happened?

This has to shake up state Democrats a little. Both sides together spent more than $500,000 on this race, but the Republican walked away with it by nearly 3,000 votes. For a special election, turnout was incredibly high, approaching 30 percent. A clear indication the voters were motivated.

It can be just as simple as the voters preferring the likes of a total newcomer with no baggage in home builder George Amedore Jr. A 38-year-old fresh face.

By contrast, 51-year-old Democratic county Legislator Ed Kosiur carried the pluses and minuses of political experience, some of it unpopular, as the city and county of Schenectady have finally gotten economic traction. It's been slow, it's been painful.

Both candidates, oddly enough, belong to the same Assembly of God church. Both are conservatives. Amedore is the high-end builder involved in the local, high-profile "Extreme Makeover" television project. Kosiur is director of teen employment for the Boys & Girls Club of Schenectady.

But what no doubt determined the outcome makes for an interesting study of timing, perceptions and exploitation of those perceptions. The meat of politics.

The 500-pound gorilla on Ed Kosiur's back is a nuclear piece of legislation he sponsored and extensively promoted that passed the County Legislature on June 12. It concerns the potential redistribution of sexual predators in the county. The law, whose details are still being hammered out to answer the fears of the towns in the county, would make it a misdemeanor for a convicted Level 1, 2 or 3 sexual offender to live within 2,000 feet of any facility associated with children. In addition, the county has the authority to remove any sex offender deemed in violation if the individual hasn't already moved so by Oct. 1.

An absurdly broad law that probably won't pass constitutional muster anyway. But in effect, the law chases all sexual offenders out of the city.

towns are in an uproar because they fear those offenders will wind up in their municipalities. That's not what the law intends, and the law is undergoing deep revision anyway.

Still, the perception for the past six weeks leading up to the July 31 election is of the Democratic county legislators busing sexual offenders out to the towns. A perception that in a political sense was beautifully controlled and exploited by Tedisco's Republicans running Amedore's campaign to great effect. The towns turned out in droves for the election.

Not that Kosiur didn't help bring this down on his own head. He absolutely wrapped himself around the sexual offender law, which had the effect of painting him with a bull's-eye. Passing that law when they did was about as dumb a political act as the Democrats could have concocted, not to mention that the law is dumb to begin with.

Tonko, who now heads the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority, ascribes the results to the celebrity Amedore got from the ridiculous hoopla over the "Extreme Makeover" house rebuilding project, and the towns' sensitivity to the sexual offender law, or perceptions about it.

In politics, reality and perception are virtually the same thing.

Tonko himself was heavily criticized for campaigning vigorously for Kosiur, and even appearing in paid political ads. Although the former assemblyman says it was all on his own time, and cleared by NYSERDA and the Spitzer administration. Obviously, it didn't help his candidate win, although Tedisco stated that Tonko's involvement probably did narrow the gap.

"Our message was complicated and just didn't get out as well, and theirs was more simplistic and did. A simplistic message will win every time," says Tonko philosophically.

Now the trick for Amedore will be keeping his new seat. The next time around, he will no longer be a fresh face, the clean slate. "The secret to keeping any legislative seat is delivering for the needs of the district," says Tonko. As a member of the impoverished minority, that will be a challenge for Amedore.

"On top of that, the 105th is a high needs district, especially out along the western fringes. High numbers of seniors with insufficient health care, poor retirement plans, and so on. Economic development is a huge issue throughout the district. He's got his work cut out," notes Tonko. LeBrun can be reached at 454-5453 or by e-mail at flebrun@timesunion.com.

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FABULOUS CARTOON Daily Gazette!   This one is the best political toon I've seen yet! Even better than the Stratton toons.

The Times Union actually SUPPORTED Kosiur in this race. At least our Daily Gazette allowed the PEOPLE to make their choice and they editorialized it nicely.

I know that newspapers sometimes do that but I think it was trashy for them to do it in this instance. So I was disappointed that the TU did that. And I like Fred LeBrun, I think his editorials are above average on average, but its a much wider issue than the sex offender law.

Schenectady is the eighth highest taxed county in the COUNTRY. Kosiur contributed to that. Tonko should have kept his stupid mouth shut and taken his patronage job. The Democrats could have put a far more qualified person in this race. Kosiur is a nit wit. Plain and simple.

And the people of Schenectady County aren't the sheeple controlled by the Democrat Dictatorship here in the City of Schenectady.

And the people of Montgomery County raise the sheep as opposed to the Democrat Party in Schenectady who are plainly wolves in Sheep's clothing and are manipulating the sheep.


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Both the TU and the Amsterdam Recorder endorsed Ed notKosher. The Gazette does not endorse candidates and prefers to mix editorials in with so called news. To the Gazette's credit they ran letters on both sides of this race. There editors were split on who to support, with many rightfully horrified by Kosiur's relocation law. Most of Lumpy's letters came from longtime hacks. The cartoon is dead on but don't bother to tell the truth to Brian Quail.

    The best pro-Lumpy letter was one from Mrs. Godlewski whose husband will be attempting to run on Lumpy's coattails in Rotterdam. Expect to see this hoot again in November. Godlewski is firmly standing on both sides of this issue and will be roasted in Nov. Seat warmer Jansieski was on the Legislature 5 minutes when he went along with Kosiur's Relocation Law. He will now face the wrath of the people in District 4. As posted before this rout, Lumpy will not be the only kook removed from office because of support for this unconstitutional farce.
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hey salami.. i see you are still slicing it thick. lol


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Good to have you back Gringo, we were worried about you after Ed Kosiur got trounced. You had been suspiciously quiet. Even you could not spin for Lumpy Kosiur? Some things even a hack will not do.

     Some thought you took a dive off the Parker Building (no that was Sue Savage and the "Machine"). Others thought you were in the truck of Quail's car. Hope you enjoyed your 2 month "cruise" and look forward to your future rantings...
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Damn, you guys are harsh !  

See Kathryn its not just me.


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It may not be "either/or" but may be "both/and" ....as in both stupid and stubborn.


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Oh please, a better headline for pandering would have been:

"Dems Must Admit Mistake And Invite Sex Offenders To Live in Their Homes and Babysit Their Children"
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N-Zone is right about one thing: The Kratz are BOTH stupid AND stubborn, among other things! That goes for the Krat cheerleaders at the People's Gazette as well.
George Amedore is a "political neophyte"? Rest assured George Amedore is all to familiar with the liberal politics of the Kratz - a bunch of NIMBYs who have probably cost his building business an unnecessary fortune. And unlike Fast Eddie, Amedore is certainly no stranger to community service -  something he has continually demonstrated by ACTION. Kosier was initially HANDED both elected positions he has held, by his fellow Kratz. And when HIS business FAILED, those same Kratz simply created a job for him, as he couldn't possibly survive on his legislature salary alone. He then had the nerve to tout his self-serving dedication to the Boys and Girls Club as some sort of sacrifice for the good of children.
Instead of this constant whining, "analyzing" Kosier's defeat to death, the Kratz should just accept the fact that Amedore was simply the better candidate by far, even in a "heavily Demokratik" district, which obviously has the People's Gazette baffled. And while Kosier brought the unintended consequences of his stupid law upon himself, criticism of Kosier's law was NOWHERE in Amedore's rhetoric. The "Stop Kosier's Law" campaign was an entirely separate and independent venture unaffiliated with the Amedore campaign. The message upon which Amedore's campaign was built is simple: Taxes are way out of control and, along with the over-regulation of EVERYTHING, are driving residents and business that spur the economy right out of New York State, particulary upstate New York. And Demokratz like Kosier, no matter how much he denies it as "distortion", as official records will show, are among the biggest creators of this phenomenon. The voting record of Kosier's "alter ego" Paul Tonko, reflects more of the same. The Kratz have never met a tax, fee, surcharge, etc. that they didn't like - something their supporters at the People's Gazette never mention among their infinite excuses.
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Beautiful analysis Gadfly. The Gazette likes to zoom in on one reason for Kosiur's trouncing which agrees with there editorial pursuits. Kosiur also lied about his pro-tax, pro-spending, anti-business positions. Kosiur wanted to export Metrograft to Montgomery County, as if they don't have enough problems. The thing about Kosiur's phony relocation of pedophiles law was, that if he had conned enough people to win, once elected he would fall in line with liberal Speaker Silver, just as Paul Tonko did. This was a fraud on the voters from Day One.

      It must also be remembered that Kosiur had the endorsements of the Teacher's Union, CSEA and Radical Gay groups. The TU stated that gay marriage was the biggest issue in this race. They also needed to talk to some voters. At the end Kosiur was comparing Amedore to George Bush. This was no upset. The better candidate outworked his opponent, who relied on the usual suspects to get out the vote. This should send a clear message to all County Legislators, stop the wasteful giveaways and needless building projects and focus only on cutting our embarrassing County tax rate. Stopping the insane relocation program is not enough.
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thanks Salami for the werlcome back. it;s nice to know that I'm still loved

Now for some ranting lol:

Amedore started the race with highg numbers -- he had better name recognition -- whether the voters really believe he will cut taxes, well, they aren't that stupid. he came out of the gate strong and stayed strong throughout -- he was a diligent campaigner with a lot of charisma.

kosiur, apparently, was the wrong candidate to go against him. if the campaign had gone several weeks longer, the race would have tightened, and he may have won. who knows.


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I do have a question...the election is over but I am still seeing alot of signs from both camps out...Isn't there a law that signs have to be taken up no more than a week after any election?? I know it is strickter after a primary but just a shame that it isn;t done yet!
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I do have a question...the election is over but I am still seeing alot of signs from both camps out...Isn't there a law that signs have to be taken up no more than a week after any election?? I know it is strickter after a primary but just a shame that it isn;t done yet!


Some local laws require election signs to be taken down no more than seven days after the election, but it varies in different municipalities, as they have different sign ordinances - which also regulate the dates they can start being put out.
We had all of Amedore's signs down within a day or two of the election here in Rotterdam. Where have you seen them?
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Hey gadfly, you missed two really big ones....one the old Main Florists sign on Campbell near the I-890 ramp.
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Thanks Dave...I'll go get those down.
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I saw one on Duane and another on Mc Clellan for Amedore and Kosier signs are in alot of different places...can't remember where all of them I saw were but I do know there is one on Duane by the Monestary
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I saw one on Duane and another on Mc Clellan and one near Rotterdam Mall for Amedore and Kosier signs are in alot of different places...can't remember where all of them I saw were but I do know there is one on Duane by the Monestary


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And there's also one on Balltown Road in front of Peter Della Ratta's property that he's been trying to sell for several years now. It looks really dumb there.


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Pat...why does it look dumb...is he standing next to it??  
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Because its not even in the 105th district and its on Peter Della Ratta's property.  


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Jim, you are going under the assumption that kosier was capable of independent thought & action.

bad assumption


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Debate spelled defeat

Final vote figures from the Assembly special election spelled in granite that Democrat Ed Kosiur's lead role on the sex offender law, which many feared would drive offenders into their neighborhoods, propelled Republican George Amedore's victory.

On election night, the initial vote total labeled Amedore a winner by about 3,000 votes. Top Dems who decided to spearhead Kosiur's campaign with the sex law denied the issue caused defeat.

Recently released figures show tiny Duanesburg gave Amedore a whopping 904-vote plurality. That surprisingly wiped out Kosiur's unexpectedly low 876-vote edge in the city of Schenectady, a Democratic monopoly.

Traditionally in Duanesburg, when Democrats lose to Republicans, it's by only 100 to 200 votes -- not a 900-plus wipeout. Duanesburg activists labeled the sex legislation "Kosiur's Law" on red signs sprinkled all over town.

Voters in Duanesburg, Princetown and Rotterdam, concerned about an influx of sex offenders from the city to their towns, gave Amedore a combined 2,236-vote plurality.

It was the same story in Montgomery County, where voters were concerned sex offenders from Schenectady would relocate there. Amedore took that county by about 1,700 votes.


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Because its not even in the 105th district and its on Peter Della Ratta's property.  


And its gone!


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While Lumpy's signs have quickly disappeared into garbage cans, many Amedore signs are still up, proudly displayed by homeowners. Its so rare that we have a victory, let alone a GOP/Conservative blow out, that many want to cherish it.

    The TU and Gazette love to zoom in on Lumpy/Savage's pedophile relocation as the sole reason for Kosiur's crushing defeat. Yes it was one of many.The truth, that George Amedore was a better candidate, had roots in Montgomery County and outworked his opponent, escapes the press. The TU stated that gay marriage,  which both opposed, was the main issue. The Gazette was equally confused. Both papers continue to ignore the new reality, that there is a huge, growing vote in Duanesburg and Princetown. This was the first of many victories for the people of the hill towns.
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New job for Kosiur?

Democrat Ed Kosiur, defeated by Republican George Amedore in last summer's special Assembly election, is in line for either a county or state job appointment.

Democratic insiders said a new "commissioner for youth" position may be created to replace youth bureau and job training agency director titles cut from the '08 budget.

Kosiur is mentioned for the job, but insiders said he is also being considered for an unspecified appointment to the state payroll.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And they smeared Jurczynski for getting a state job! What freakin hippocrits!

All Kosiur's good for is chauffering Bob around to stick political signs into lawns. Oh, and to illegally stick them into city property.

Give me a break! He's such a clown.


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Democrat Ed Kosiur, defeated by Republican George Amedore in last summer's special Assembly election, is in line for either a county or state job appointment.


Kosiur was appointed to the County Legislature.  He is now being considered for another appointment.  Does his resume include winning an election for any position that he has held?
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Absolutely disgusting. Lumpy Kosiur will not get a State lob job. Neither will Son of Sam. Look to the County for pork.

     This is County job attrition? Thought the County was getting serious about belt tightening. Right when pigs fly. Keep paying the 10th highest taxes in the NATION and re-electing County no-nuthin Democrats. This will end only when every County Democrat is chased out of office by enraged voters, armed with pitchforks and shovels {for all the manure}. Start by chasing out the useless County GOP Chair who runs blanks against them, insuring this madness.

     Sue "The" Savage Productions, aka {Schenectady County stylin}. Lumpy Kosiur will be rewarded for being a loyal stooge with a huge County lob position for no work. Not bad work for a failed toilet salesman. What does he know about economics or job creation? Thought Lumpy Kosiur was going back to the private sector. (ha-ha) Better yet run for Congress. He is better than Son of Sam and Sue "The" Savage put together. And no one will say nothing. Only when Republicans double dip does anyone give a hot Damn around these parts.
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Looks like the fat cats will be fed. This should be headed off at the pass. Very backhanded work coming out of the county attorney's office and from Chair Savage. People ought to be indignant over it.
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Not to worry, the republicans on the county legislature will stop this nonsense.


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dumb idea.  if they wanted to save money while keeping the leadership position they should have eliminated the assistants job.  and its always a shame to see a civil service position removed for a higher paying appointed job.  theres qualifications and rules for one...the other is just a way station for each new administrations buddly list.  but after reading the article i'm starting to think maybe the whole org needs to be scrappped.  do we really need to be funding all this?
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County Legislator Gary Hughes, D-Schenectady, said the county is creating the special assistant’s position to develop a “more robust youth program.”
    The new youth program, expected to be announced with fanfare after Jan. 1, would “involve more kids, be more countywide and more focused on actual hands-on activities for kids,” Hughes said.
    “Our intent is to bring in someone who can work effectively with other county departments and in the community with other organizations, and to take the youth program up several notches,” Hughes said.



Hughes has no credibility.  His statement re: the qualifications for the position that was newly created for Kosiur point to experience in inter-governmental cooperation and youth programs.  The job description and responsibilities were, no doubt, custom tailored to Kosiur's experience (with the absence of plumbing knowledge).  At a $85,000 per year salary, don't expect Kosiur to be snaking toilets.

The taxpaying residents of Schenectady County should be infuriated.  Where is the anger? As our county property tax rates increase by 6% to 20% (depending on your town of residence), the public will sit idly by and allow the Democratic controlled County Legislature to create more patronage positions and award their friends with government positions and government contracts.  In return for the "favors", many of the recipients make large campaign contributions to the Schenectady County Democratic Committee and to the individual campaigns of Democratic candidates.  

When the Republicans assume control of the County Legislature in two years, they should pledge to eliminate, on day one, Kosiur's new position in addition to many other patronage jobs on the county payroll.

The Fleecing of the Schenectady County Taxpayers has just intensified.
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The Gazette has reached another new low. Undecided? Weighing options? Give us a break-there is a County Lob position and only a County lob position. The State has nothing for Lumpy Kosiur. Please pursue your private sector options, if any. We deserve a break today, it's Christmas.

     This is an absolute disgrace to the County taxpayers. The natural result of one party "government". They take care of there own. C'mon N-Zone you can count the votes. Joe has 4. The Crats have 11. Expect more of this self serving nonsense.

     The people in District 4 should be hanging there heads in shame. You had a choice and replaced a solid Conservative with yet another vote for Sue Savage. Another "leader" in Rotterdam should be typing up a resignation letter. If you don't want to fight, every incumbent, get the heck out of the way. Had enough of place holders?
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A few things in the article about new position in which the legilative democrats created for kosior.
For 1 Benny is right what is the other job offered to him by the state? Why not say the other secrative job?
2- his four year term on legislature ends dec 31, he gave his two week notice to the Boys & Girls club. The dems are mum about who is going to get the job and this so called new position begins Jan 1.
A special meeting?
well we all know who out votes who?
According to the NewYork State civil service commision an EXAM must be taken and open to all those qualified for the position. Assistant to the commisioner of social services for the youth developement
They got rid off different positions many jobs were lost just to pave the way for this newly created position!
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Lumpy's Kosiur is still weighing his "important" job offers, while County taxpayers are waiting with eager anticipation for their late Christmas present. More robust youth programs-give us a break vampire Hughes. Lumpy got his-you got yours? Yeah-ho,ho,ho...

     More coal from the "Working Party" Democratic Machine. Baby Albany. Working together works: to increase self dealing and increase your taxes. Higher town taxes, higher County taxes, and a huge 1% City decrease under the enlightened rule of Son of Sam. So what if the County increase is 10X that. So what if the City Assessor is laboring hard to complete the three year reassessment debacle. All City residents should hold onto that huge decrease with dear life, we're gonna need it. Send it to Son of Sam's Congressional Committee....
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Kosiur has new job with county
Critic says $80K post a slap to taxpayers
Thursday, January 3, 2008
By Michael Lamendola (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

SCHENECTADY COUNTY — Former Schenectady County Legislator Ed Kosiur started a highly paid county job Tuesday, a position one critic called “a consolation prize” after Kosiur lost his bid as the Democratic candidate for state Assembly last summer.

Kosiur became the county’s first-ever assistant to the commissioner of social services for youth development. He will be paid $80,000, close to the job classification’s top salary range of $85,000.

County Manager Kathleen Rooney appointed Kosiur to the position Tuesday after his four-year term on the county Legislature ended Dec. 31 and as soon as the job became available at the start of the county’s 2008 fiscal year.

Rooney’s action did not require legislative approval, but it was done with full support of the Legislature’s Democratic majority. Kosiur will report to Rooney, and he currently has no supervisory responsibilities.

Democrats created the executive-level position at their end-of-year meeting in December. At the time, they refused to say who would get the job, but Republicans and others said it was intended for Kosiur. Kosiur was not available for comment Wednesday.

Longtime friend Legislator Gary Hughes, D-Schenectady, said Kosiur is “going to be excellent” for the job. “Ed will bring a different perspective to this. He has a broad view of what is possible and has some clear direction from the Legislature.”

Hughes said Kosiur’s job is to make the county’s youth program “more robust,” helping to create an “environment in the county that people want to move to. It’s a quality-of-life issue.”

Kosiur also is expected to use available resources to accomplish his goals, Hughes said. “The resources that were there already are still there. In Ed’s situation, it is the energy and contacts he has among not-for-profits and sport leagues that are important.”

Kosiur will work with the towns to expand their various sports programs and to develop further the county’s summer youth employment program, Hughes said. He also will work with the city to maintain its youth-directed efforts, he said.

“We will look to him for leadership. The summer youth employment program will be maintained, and we would love to see more activities for kids in the towns,” Hughes said.
POSITION TAILORED

Majority Democrats paved the way for new position by first eliminating the civil service-protected position of director of the Youth Bureau, held by Shane Bargy for the last five years. They did that in October when adopting the 2008 budget.

County officials then moved Bargy to the newly created position of director of temporary assistance and employment services, also exempt from civil service. The position carries a $6,000 increase over his current salary of $55,941. Bargy has no prior experience in this field and is expected to learn the job on the go.

Legislator Joe Suhrada, R-Rotterdam, said Kosiur’s appointment is a “brazen slap on the face to taxpayers. This is an unnecessary partisan job. They shuffled a couple of jobs around to give Ed a golden parachute when he left the Legislature in his bid for state Assembly.”

Kosiur gambled his political career in a special election in August for the 105th District Assembly seat, losing to Republican George Amedore Jr.; he chose not to seek re-election to a second four-year term on the county Legislature.

Suhrada said Democrats “thought they could give him a consolation prize, but it is a booby prize for the taxpayers.”

Hughes said even if Democrats “did what critics are suggesting, are the youths of this county not well served by Ed’s appointment? Give him a year and let’s see what he does in a year.”

Hughes said county officials moved Bargy to capitalize on his strong administrative skills. Bargy has a college degree and more than five years experience working in youth development; he took a civil service test to become county youth bureau director.

Kosiur, up until two weeks ago when he gave notice, was director of the Boys and Girls Clubs of Schenectady after-school program at the city high school. He worked for the Boys and Girls Clubs for several years. He has no college degree and is a former master plumber and plumbing supply sales manager.

Kosiur started his political career in 2002 when he was appointed to fill a vacancy on the City Council when now-Mayor Brian Stratton became a county legislator. Kosiur ran in 2003 to complete Stratton’s term, and in 2004 he ran for the county Legislature in District 2. He chaired the Legislature’s committee on children and families.


http://cms.dailygazette.com/news/2008/jan/03/0103_kosiurjob/
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Lumpy's Kosiur is still weighing his "important" job offers, while County taxpayers are waiting with eager anticipation for their late Christmas present. More robust youth programs-give us a break vampire Hughes. Lumpy got his-you got yours? Yeah-ho,ho,ho...

     More coal from the "Working Party" Democratic Machine. Baby Albany. Working together works: to increase self dealing and increase your taxes. Higher town taxes, higher County taxes, and a huge 1% City decrease under the enlightened rule of Son of Sam. So what if the County increase is 10X that. So what if the City Assessor is laboring hard to complete the three year reassessment debacle. All City residents should hold onto that huge decrease with dear life, we're gonna need it. Send it to Son of Sam's Congressional Committee....


As predicted by moi, 2 weeks ago! No State job, no People's Gazette correction, just a royal ripoff. Here's the best part Lumpy Ed Kosiur has no college and is completely unqualified. A competent person, who passed civil service tests, was shoved aside. To the victors go the spoils, not the whole nine yards and then some.
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[b][/b]Ed kosiur did a LOT of good for the Boys' and Girls' Clubs and for their summer camp.  I think he will be a great asset.  
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He didn't do $80,000 worth of kickball and tag.
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[b][/b]HA  you are right about that.  i have been challenged on this particular subject and i intend to do some research and THEN decide if he is worth it!!  
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How many jobs that pay $80,000 /yr can people who fail to graduate from college get around here? If this doesn't disgust people and turn them against the spoils of political war system very little ever will.
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Bargy has a college degree and more than five years experience working in youth development; he took a civil service test to become county youth bureau director.


Bargy's current salary is $55,941

A well qualified individual (Bargy) with an advanced degree and considerable experience in the field of youth development who was hired after taking and passing a civil service test and who was earning in the mid $50K /year range plus benefits has been reassigned to an administrative position in which he "has no prior experience in this field and is expected to learn the job on the go" and for which he will receive a salary increase of $6K /year  By all accounts, Mr. Bargy performed admirably in his (former) civil service-protected position of director of the Youth Bureau.

The taxpayers will finance the creation of a new patronage position for Mr. Kosiur at a starting salary of $80K /year (a 43% increase over Mr. Bargy's current salary) plus benefits.  The position requires neither a civil service test nor a college degree.  It was not posted for qualified county employees to apply.

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Longtime friend Legislator Gary Hughes, D-Schenectady, said Kosiur is “going to be excellent” for the job. “Ed will bring a different perspective to this. He has a broad view of what is possible and has some clear direction from the Legislature.”

Suhrada said Democrats “thought they could give him a consolation prize, but it is a booby prize for the taxpayers.”

Hughes said even if Democrats “did what critics are suggesting, are the youths of this county not well served by Ed’s appointment? Give him a year and let’s see what he does in a year.”


How many of you have been hired based on your potential rather than your education and experience and offered a starting salary of $80K / year + benefits?

The fleecing of Schenectady County residents continues ...  


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Right Lumpy Kosiur did a lot of good. Feathering his own nest. Buying an ice cream sundae for himself and not the kid that hit a homer. His legislative efforts are also legendary. The worst mess in Schenectady County history. His assembly race was another one for the books.

     This is an outrage and another rape of County taxpayers. For the record Kosiur initially did not even want the Boys Club to run a pool for poor kids. Let him go back to the private sector and sell toilet parts. He should be a natural at this, he is so full of it.

     As far as Gary Hughes, you were warned. The only nit wit willingly to defend this taxpayer ripoff. At least all the other Democrats had the sense to hide in total disgrace. People come to a County because of good jobs, low taxes, excellent schools not "robust youth programs" or government gin mills, Mr. Hughes. Why did Mr. Eidens have to leave and you stay?
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May have to re-title this thread---doesn't sound like much of a "defeat" for Kosiur.  He who laughs last... .


"So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past." F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby)
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May have to re-title this thread---doesn't sound like much of a "defeat" for Kosiur.  He who laughs last... .


You are assuming that this is the end of the issue ...

Though Kosiur's tenure in his newly awarded position may persevere through future changes of county government control, those who continue to fleece the taxpaying residents of Schenectady County may have a less certain future in government.

The sleeping dog has awakened ...
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what a joke.  the guy is clearly being rewarded for taking the hit for the dems this time around.  i were him i'd be happy i lost!  better pay, no campaigning, no real need for results...what a great scam.  this is a clear example of why the civil service process is needed for govt jobs.  while i said before i think that the entire set of positions may not even be needed, if youre going to have this type of job it needs to be for the most qualified person.  civil service jobs remove politics from govt employement.  the county just did the opposite.   what really will make us madder is that if the gop ever takes the county back this job will most likely stay, and someone from their team will get a nice reward.  another expensive sham job that will never go away.
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Ben, you hit it right on the head.


Stop stealing, the Government doesn't like competition.
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When the dog wakes up, the first thing he needs to do is recruit candidates willing to run for the county legislature.


"So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past." F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby)
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[b][/b]geez, i've aced quite a few civil service exams and i am still making squat AND working two jobs to just pay my bills...i'm in the wrong profession.  I think i need to become a democrat and start losing some races!!!
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This is a bridge too far and the County Democrats know it. Ed Kosiur is complete unqualified for this newly minted lob job. Love his non-profit and sports connections. Why didn't some non-profit controlled by the Democrats hire him? Because he's uniquely qualified, to be a toilet parts salesman.

     That's why they trotted out Gary Hughes, who just won re-election in the most Democratic district, to defend this outrage to all County taxpayers. Vince has been strangely silent on this and the SCCC Music Mayhem lately. Too busy not answering calls?

     The People's Gazette must also be held accountable for printing the phony story about a State Position for Lumpy Ed Kosiur, and failure to retract that obvious fiction. Editor Woodhead also doesn't mind a lot of egg on the face.
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... what really will make us madder is that if the gop ever takes the county back this job will most likely stay, and someone from their team will get a nice reward.  another expensive sham job that will never go away.


Ben,

I agree. When the Republicans regain control of the Schenectady County government, they would be well advised to govern based on what is best for the residents, not for themselves and their friends as is the criterion for the present Democratic controlled majority.  All patronage jobs should be considered for elimination, including Kosiur's new job.  

If the GOP doesn't deliver on traditional conservative values of smaller government and lower taxes, they won't hold control for long once they attain it.
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Unfortunately Ben is right. Of course, to take back the County one first has to oppose incumbent Liberal Democrats. This will never be done under the current GOP "chairman". The first step is remove him kicking and screaming. Addition through subtraction.

      The Democrats are packing the County with patronage hires because they know they will not be held responsible, and if they represent the City, will not have an opponent. The GOP will be back only with new leadership, working with a revitalized Conservative Party, and must slash all patronage lob jobs no matter who started them. This goes for Metrograft as well, it must be wrapped up, the sooner the better.
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the gop could easilly win virtually any office in any municipality if they just ran on huge property tax cuts.  if they came out and stated, with solid numbers, facts and figures, that they would cut property taxes by double didgits, they would win.  cuevas could have beaten stratton with that as his main goal.  we get told they'll cut taxes, but never how and by how much.  why?  the budgets are available, these are organized groups with decent resourses.  why not sit down with it and find every cut, find each spot for a reduction in spending, add it up and present a campaign with specific examples?  well, i know why.  the rebublicans want to spend as much as the dems do.  they lost their identity locally the way the dems lost theirs nationally.  they don't stand for anything except being against the dems.  
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who were the people who lost their jobs because of kosiur? sb?



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Frances Riccio lost her job to make way for Lumpy Kosiur. The County's debt is exploding and one person gets the axe? This is "Strawberry" Fields concept of cutting fat to the bone. Another is promoted to make way for a more "robust" youth program under toilet parts maven, Lumpy Ed Kosiur.

     As far as Ben's remarks it is not enough to make phony, vague promises to maybe cut something. The GOP needs to find a voice and get very specific. What programs can be completely cut? What can be more efficiently done by Metroplex or the towns? What can be consolidated? This idea that something is sacred because I might use it occasionally has to go. Everyone must sacrifice, everything not State mandated must be cut. Drastic action is needed  now by leaders of good faith on both sides of the aisle. Can't wait til October to maybe do something.
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you guys live in fairy land -- who do you like created the patronage jobs in the first place? God? The Republicans -- they started all the jobs -- and filled them with their own hacks, and bloated the budget in their 37 years of control.

please, please,,, the Republicans will not make things all right -- they will fire all the dem picks and put in their own guys --- stop eating the lotuses and drink some strong coffee.

what a laugh, "When the Republicans regain control of the Schenectady County government, they would be well advised to govern based on what is best for the residents, not for themselves and their friends as is the criterion for the present Democratic controlled majority.  All patronage jobs should be considered for elimination, including Kosiur's new job."

that will never, ever happen.......

they started the mess we are in


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And to think of it....Grover Cleveland, a New Yorker and the first Democrat elected after the War Between the States, reformed the civil service and got rid of patronage jobs (for the most part) in the federal government.  A major impetus for the reform had been the conduct of Chester A. Arthur (another New Yorker--but a republican) who abused and engorged the patronage jobs.  What goes around comes around.


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Predicted this would happen, whenever current patronage is discovered we hear from the usual stooges it happened 40 years ago too. Guess that makes it OK? Let's deal with today not what never happened before.

      Please tell us when the GOP ever created a $80,000 patronage job for someone who lost an Assembly race? With zero college and no qualifications whatsoever for the new position. Answer-never. Bob McEvoy would never have allowed it. What was our tax rate like 40 years ago? Gringo is in fairyland. Everything is peachy keen because Democrats he worked for are gorging themselves.

     No one has ever abused the civil service system and created more patronage plums then Sue Savage. The lack of outrage is one thing but that anyone from any party could defend this rape of the taxpayers is simply disgusting. By the way Ed Kosiur is laughing at you. He is planning a grand vacation after a couple of days at work.
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you guys live in fairy land -- who do you like created the patronage jobs in the first place? God? The Republicans -- they started all the jobs -- and filled them with their own hacks, and bloated the budget in their 37 years of control.

please, please,,, the Republicans will not make things all right -- they will fire all the dem picks and put in their own guys --- stop eating the lotuses and drink some strong coffee.

what a laugh, "When the Republicans regain control of the Schenectady County government, they would be well advised to govern based on what is best for the residents, not for themselves and their friends as is the criterion for the present Democratic controlled majority.  All patronage jobs should be considered for elimination, including Kosiur's new job."

that will never, ever happen.......

they started the mess we are in


So, Gringo, is this diatribe from the Gringo Says Two Wrongs Make A Right Handbook for Democratic Party Rationalizations?

Because someone else might have abused the system, that makes it okay for the next guys to do it.

In 37 years controlling the County Legislature, the GOP never considered changing the way legislative vacancies were filled, even if it would have profited their majority.

The Democrats, in mere months after taking control of the County Legislature, made that change just to ensure they could subvert the elective process and ensure their majority.  

Talk about drinking the Kool-Aid...geez!

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I am not for this newly created position that the legislature created for  Ed Kosiur, and how they went about doing it!
Now being Ed Kosiur is the new assistant to the commissioner of social services for the YOUTH department.
What Benefit does the rest of the youths in Schenectady get and offered to them?.
Again it's only helping those that are on public assistance.
What about the Youth of the Taxpaying resident and what do they get out of it?
                                     NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND!!!!! or in this case they ARE LEFT BEHIND!!
the future of Schenectady depends on the youth of today!
Politics and there Bull S***! Never changes!
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Don't try and convince Gringo with the truth his mind is made up.

     He only cares that his Democratic buddies, that he helped elect knowing they are horrible, are feasting on the waste and inefficiency in this poorly run County. To the victor go the spoils but not everything that is not nailed down.

     Dave makes a wonderful point about recent amendments to the County Charter. But if Savage failed to amend it, she would have had to appoint 2 new GOP members. Better to amend the charter than allow 2 seats to be chosen by District Legislators. No self respecting "machine" allows real diversity, not even a crumb.
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Now that it's 2008, what's on Amadore's legislative agenda?  Good things for his district?


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I don't know give him a call DISTRICT OFFICE
1170 Riverfront Center
Amsterdam, NY 12010
518-843-0227
And get back to us when you find out!
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No website?  No "Letter from Albany"?  No press releases?  He has to run again pretty soon, I think.


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Thanks, mr clean.  Not a lot there but there is a website.


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Same stuff as far as I could see.  Nothing about his legislative agenda in the upcoming session.


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Give the guy a chance. Didn't he just get sworn in 10 minutes ago....... Don't they have to hire staff, set up offices and establish themselves a little bit? Not to mention get ready for re-election. Boy, thats gotta suck. Win a race, set up your staff and run again. Doesn't sound like much fun.
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....and, of course, represent his district and keep the voters informed about what he's doing.  Was it supposed to be fun?


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....and, of course, represent his district and keep the voters informed about what he's doing.  Was it supposed to be fun?


Maybe not, but a bit harder with backseat pundits like yourself.

You couldn't even think to find the websites yourself, instead as usual letting others do your legwork.

Gee, you should be an elected official.

Oh yes, then you'd have to answer questions rather than ask them....never really your strong suit, answering questions.
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Fun? That was sarcasm. My point was that we should give him a few months to get his ducks in a row and his feet wet? Who makes the decision if he gets member item monies and so forth?
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Just wondering---there seems to be such intense interest in what they guy he defeated is doing, I was looking for something the winner was doing.  I would think that for a newly elected republican in the New York State Assembly, learning the ropes would be fairly easy--especially with the minority leader in the adjoining district.  I would also think that, in light of an upcoming election, he would want to keep his supporters informed and pumped up.


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Well, N-Zone, it's early January and if you'd been reading the papers you'd have seen that Mr. Amedore has been a bit active on a number of issues.

However, even a superior intellect as yourself might need some time to become acclimated to a new job, it surroundings and the intricate workings of State government and its legislature.
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Good for him---let me know if any of his "issues" are enacted.


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Maybe someone could contact his office and advise that the constituents would like to see, besides the normal press releases, something to the effect of a blog stating what's going on and wht he's doing on the State level.  It would be nice to see ALL legislators do something like this.  Even for town / city / county board members.  They could even go into more depth on explanations of things that they want people to know.  That way, when no one shows up at the meetings, they're still holding themselves accountable for a job well done, and it gives them some sort of an idea, when they run again for office, what they've been doing since the last election.
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Excellent suggestions.  It would appear that even those who greeted Amadore's election as something approaching an event equal to the parting of the Red Sea, have no idea what he's doing.


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Just wondering---there seems to be such intense interest in what they guy he defeated is doing, I was looking for something the winner was doing.  I would think that for a newly elected republican in the New York State Assembly, learning the ropes would be fairly easy--especially with the minority leader in the adjoining district.  I would also think that, in light of an upcoming election, he would want to keep his supporters informed and pumped up.


I agree and I would be suprised if he didn't do just that. It's just my opinion that being critical of him because he doesn't have all the things rolling yet like Tedisco or Senator Farley is asking a bit much.....it's the first week of January and like Dave said, he has been active on many issues that have been reported on in the media.
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I am satisfied that he is working on "many issues"; and, as I said, let me know if any of them result in legislation and enactment.


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Isn't it ironic that Kosiur's new job pays as much as if he won this election and better yet he gets to save on gas by not having to drive to Albany......
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Just so that people know,
I have on several occasions spoke to Mr Amadore and his staff in regards to many issues that schenectady faces.
I do repect him and have to give him room to breath and do his research.
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Now can anyone create a new position for me and a lucrative salery with all this work I have to do!
Maybe there should be a new thread for George amadore notmixed in with kosiur(oil and water don't mix)
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Great idea.  Then we can take a close look at the "many issues".


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I am satisfied that he is working on "many issues"; and, as I said, let me know if any of them result in legislation and enactment.


Why does everyone have to carry your water.

Do your own research.  Ask Mr. Amedore questions yourself.

Facta, non verba

What a schnuk!
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I guess I thought  I should ask his partisans who,  I am surprised to find, don't know what he's doing.  My "research" didn't tell me much--but then I only went to his website.  What did Kosiur have for breakfast this morning?


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He's your guy, partisan that you are.  Tell us about his bowel movements too, since you're on here spouting the party bullsh*t line.

I guess you just need to be spoon fed all of your information, and why...are you too inept do do research yourself?

Tell us why Tonko was such a great assemply person?  Do you know?

Explain what would make Hillary such a great president, and not in comparison to other candidates or present office holders, but her own unique qualifications to hold any office.

As a senator, all she's done is run for reelection and for president.  What legislation has she enacted?

We're waiting!
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N-zone are you for or against Amadore? As far as what he is doing I really don't know I am not with him 24/7
. As I stated I have to let him breath and work and see if he helped out in anyway with the concerns that I have asked him when I called. Third we are
If you have a concern please voice your oppinion and call him @843-0227
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Okay, Mr. Clean, as far as back on topic, this job is what Mr. Kosiur got into politics for.  All of his loyalty and work for the party is paying off, quite literally.

So, I guess we shouldn't blame Ed Kosiur, but the political patronage system that drives government.

Since taxes fuel government, political patronage is like a muscle car in a gas shortage.  

And don't go blaming the GOP for inventing something that goes back to the Greeks, at least, and that both sides abuse quite liberally.
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Maybe I should blame my GOP party, if they got there SH*t together and strongly endorse and back up       the people on the same party line that run to be a political offical then maybe lumpy would not even have a JOB!
Now we have to suffer!
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Maybe someone could contact his office and advise that the constituents would like to see, besides the normal press releases, something to the effect of a blog stating what's going on and wht he's doing on the State level.  It would be nice to see ALL legislators do something like this.  Even for town / city / county board members.  They could even go into more depth on explanations of things that they want people to know.  That way, when no one shows up at the meetings, they're still holding themselves accountable for a job well done, and it gives them some sort of an idea, when they run again for office, what they've been doing since the last election.


Are you kidding Kevin?

I tried to get the County Leg members to give me a bio when we were doing the county website - most of them didn't have email addresses they'd give out - and I didn't get ONE Bio.  Even when the IT Director for the county requested them, nada. Not one.

Don't hold your breath on the county/city doing this - they've got nothing they want to be proud of - until election time.
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No website?  No "Letter from Albany"?  No press releases?  He has to run again pretty soon, I think.


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Same stuff as far as I could see.  Nothing about his legislative agenda in the upcoming session.



Just responding to your cynical questions, that's all.
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so, i work with a lot of the same kids that Kosiur worked with AND work with them more often!!  i have done very well on several service exams including the one i took for my current job, blew it out of the water, in fact!!  does this mean that i can rest assured in the fact that someone MAY take notice of  me and decide that i am worth a newly created position and $80,000?  if that were only true!!
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Maybe I should blame my GOP party, if they got there SH*t together and strongly endorse and back up       the people on the same party line that run to be a political official then maybe lumpy would not even have a JOB!
Now we have to suffer!


Good point, Mr Clean, and my mistake.  My comment was pointed more toward Gringo and N-Zone.  I guess I was just answering your question.
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so, i work with a lot of the same kids that Kosiur worked with AND work with them more often!!  i have done very well on several service exams including the one i took for my current job, blew it out of the water, in fact!!  does this mean that i can rest assured in the fact that someone MAY take notice of  me and decide that i am worth a newly created position and $80,000?  if that were only true!!


Absolutely, Daisy!

Just contribute money to the correct campaigns and "funds", go out and plant campaign signs (on city and state property or on people's property with out asking them, or better, tell them that it's city property and the property owners have no say...any lie will do during a campaign) and show up for the phony rallies and cheer at every half truth, outright untruth and any self effacing of responsibility for unsolved issues that you can blame the last "administration" for.

And get lobotomized, because independent thought is verboten!
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Maybe I should blame my GOP party, if they got there SH*t together and strongly endorse and back up       the people on the same party line that run to be a political offical then maybe lumpy would not even have a JOB!
Now we have to suffer!


I'd second that, and if they turn things around with the correct candidates, they could always correct these things and eliminate Kosiur's position once tey turn the ranks.  Of course at this rate, it's going to be decades until that happens.  Long enough that he'll try to put behind him the fact that the position was created just for him.  Maybe he's just trying to do the same thing they were saying Mayor Al was trying to do a while ago, get a little bit more time in inside government to get the cushy retirement package?
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Kevin, not to pick a not with you, and I certainly don't disagree with your last post....but who are "they" that are going to heal the City GOP?

Do you know?  

Who is it that's going to organize campaigns, go through a candidate selection process, raise campaign funds....

All of this talk about revitalizing the City GOP is great, but what is needed is new blood willing to learn fast and check egos at the door in order rebuild a City GOP committee that is beyond shattered.

Who are they?
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Tell us why Tonko was such a great assemply person?  Do you know?

Explain what would make Hillary such a great president, and not in comparison to other candidates or present office holders, but her own unique qualifications to hold any office.

As a senator, all she's done is run for reelection and for president.  What legislation has she enacted?

We're waiting!


Still waiting!
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Kevin, not to pick a not with you, and I certainly don't disagree with your last post....but who are "they" that are going to heal the City GOP?

Do you know?  

Who is it that's going to organize campaigns, go through a candidate selection process, raise campaign funds....

All of this talk about revitalizing the City GOP is great, but what is needed is new blood willing to learn fast and check egos at the door in order rebuild a City GOP committee that is beyond shattered.

Who are they?


We are they, and we need to find a way to either straighten out things in the local Republican party, the local Conservative party, or just start another party up separately and bring it to power, one that goes back to what the Republican party USED to be, a party of smaller government, less interference, lower taxes.
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Tell us why Tonko was such a great assemply person?  Do you know?

Explain what would make Hillary such a great president, and not in comparison to other candidates or present office holders, but her own unique qualifications to hold any office.

As a senator, all she's done is run for reelection and for president.  What legislation has she enacted?

We're waiting!

Still waiting!


Hope you're not waiting for ME on this one.  Plus, Hillary once mentioned that she has things to bring to the Presidency that no other person ever has.  She said she was UNIQUELY QUALIFIED.  I'd like to throw down the gauntlet the Sean Hannity had used in the past.  Tell me 3 things that Hillary Clinton brings to th stage that NO OTHER PERSON THAT EVER RAN FOR THE PRESIDENCY brings.  What are the UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS?
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Are you kidding Kevin?

I tried to get the County Leg members to give me a bio when we were doing the county website - most of them didn't have email addresses they'd give out - and I didn't get ONE Bio.  Even when the IT Director for the county requested them, nada. Not one.

Don't hold your breath on the county/city doing this - they've got nothing they want to be proud of - until election time.


There are specific sites that you can go out to in order to get your own blog page.  And you don't even have to pay for them.  I bet that if we decided to go and ask our representatives to go ahead and start a webpage / blog, we could find a place to get them set up.  We already have Mr. DiCerbo and Mr. Suhrada who come in here.  Either one of them, or any other legislator at any level of government can set up for an e-mail address with Yahoo, go to a company such as Bloglines.com or Blogspot.Com as members of this site have gone to in order to put things out there to inform the public.  

I just think it would be nice to see what they're thinking when they're not sitting around the tables (and sorry, Joe, I don't mean when you're talking about your muscle cars, although that is somewhat interesting).  

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Assemblyman Amadore is sure to re-elected with such ardent supporters (regardless of his record in the Assembly).  He will have to run on that record but it will be bulging with "many issues".  We can now return to Kosiur and his "many faults".  


"So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past." F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby)
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Still waiting!


Hope you're not waiting for ME on this one.  Plus, Hillary once mentioned that she has things to bring to the Presidency that no other person ever has.  She said she was UNIQUELY QUALIFIED.  I'd like to throw down the gauntlet the Sean Hannity had used in the past.  Tell me 3 things that Hillary Clinton brings to th stage that NO OTHER PERSON THAT EVER RAN FOR THE PRESIDENCY brings.  What are the UNIQUE QUALIFICATIONS?
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No Kevin, I was still waiting on N-Zone, and he has responded in his typical evasive, change the subject and try to put the onus back others fashion.

Good job researching for us, N-Zone.  Be sure to expect the same in kind when you start demanding answers from others.

N-Zone, you are quite the goilem.

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The entire County Legislature is a joke. Very few residents can name all there Legislators. The City is divided into 2 separate districts which makes no sense. The Hilltowns have no representation, neither does Scotia. Glenville and Nisky are lumped together. What would make sense would be a return to the Board of Supervisors like we used to have and efficient Saratoga County still does. No pay. Hundred of thousands of taxpayer dollars could be saved.

    Back to bobby prize winner, Lumpy Ed Kosiur. He took no exam. He has no college. This is a slap in the face to Daisy and many other hard working County employees who are playing by the rules. It's not what you know, it's who you know. Another so Schenectady County...
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Kosiur should be ashamed of himself but of course he's not. Somehow, he feels some sort of entitlement due to being a yes man for his party's higher-ups.


Stop stealing, the Government doesn't like competition.
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Benny, you're obsessing on this guy---he lost the election and he got a patronage job created just for him---are you having fun?


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I just think it would be nice to see what they're thinking when they're not sitting around the tables (and sorry, Joe, I don't mean when you're talking about your muscle cars, although that is somewhat interesting).  



Well what do i talk about. Considering the redneck hick I am, usually it is musclecars. But when not that, it is current affairs, history, architecture, movies, music, more current affairs, military and geo-political intelligence, politics, and then restoring musclecars, horses sometimes, hunting, shooting, firearms, stocks, mutual funds, investing, fishing, hiking, camping, traveling, and anything else that is out of season.(LIKE FISHING!) I am bored with the weather. However, I don't usually tire of talking about our local government and corrupt self-serving politicians, and they are always in season for me.

So there that is what I talk about. I also opine here, as you know, where I get beat up pretty good by people I represent, who try to shoot holes in me. I usually move too fast for that though. (Grew up wanting to be Steve McQueen but with an ugly mug.) Whether it is the so-called lawsuit, or a few of my votes, or my views on terrorists, they like to rib me...Then I get the added pleasure to know that the Democratic leaders like Heart Attack Gardner and Quailebird get to track everything I say so they can later take it out of context!

So yeah, it is SO worth it to take a stand. I get SO much support from the blog community (outside of about 5 of you), NOT. And then you wonder why no one seems to ever have an opinion except to blindly vote "yes?" It is a LOT easier to vote "yes" and go along. Look at Ed!

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speaking of patronage jobs. let's look at all the jobs pataki handed out to his cronies. what about tedisco --- he gave a job to loser cuevas after he got booted from his other patronage job. when al was mayor, patronage flowed like oil from his hand, and we got robertson, whom he put in charge of economic development.

maybe when the GOPPers when [fat chance] salami and you others can go suck ontheir teats. maybe salami canmove to rotterdam and get a job with the tommasone admin, which is as corrupt as they come.

my two cents.

looking forward to reading your wonderful, thought-provoking and, of course, intelligent responses.

Gringo -- the voice of truth


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Guess not the only one "obsessing" on Lumpy Ed Kosiur's new lob job. Salami will make hay while the sun shines. Beautiful Gazette editorial attacking this slap in the face to all County taxpayers. Also, great Editorial cartoon. Gringo's is hilarious. Abe Lincoln also created a patronage job. Can you ever deal with current Schenectady County reality?

     As I predicted this is a bridge too far by Sue "The" Savage and the Democratic County Lemmings. Finally, the Gazette had weighed in on this. Better late than never? Where were they when Lumpy Kosiur was weighing his State and County options?

     Of course, there was no State option. There was no Private option. There was only a make work lob job as a bobby prize for an unqualified puppet. No college. No experience. No problem, The Democratic majority, led by Sue "The " Savage, your next Congresswoman (ha-ha) will create a fantasy position, by passing qualified County employees. Ed Kosiur is laughing at you planning a grand worldwide trip, on your dime, while you few defenders try and check out a book at a closed branch library.
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No, Benny, you're not the only one.  Seems a lot of energy to spend on a pretty worn-out topic--but maybe Kosiur is a gift that keeps on giving.  He will probably retire from his new job before the republicans regain the majority on the county legislature and put one of their own into this job.


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speaking of patronage jobs. let's look at all the jobs pataki handed out to his cronies. what about tedisco --- he gave a job to loser cuevas after he got booted from his other patronage job. when al was mayor, patronage flowed like oil from his hand, and we got robertson, whom he put in charge of economic development.

maybe when the GOPPers when [fat chance] salami and you others can go suck ontheir teats. maybe salami canmove to rotterdam and get a job with the tommasone admin, which is as corrupt as they come.

my two cents.

looking forward to reading your wonderful, thought-provoking and, of course, intelligent responses.

Gringo -- the voice of truth


How is Tommasone's administration as corrupt as they come?

How do you back that up??? Disagreeing with some things doesn't mean they are corrupt, like say "Metroplex" is.

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C'mon N-Zone. Kosiur is not going to retire. Maybe in 20 years on full pension.

     He is living large, off the opposed County taxpayers. Planning worldwide cruises for his entire family. The soonest the County GOP can take over in January 2010 by then he will have over $160,000 in his pocket. Right about one thing. The County Democrats have again opened the curtain on their horrible spending practices. Whoever runs for Judge Eidens open seat this year will be the first casualty of this outrageous abuse of the taxpayers. Will see if this is the gift that keeps on giving. Not exactly Gov. Spitzer. He gives like no other NY politician. By the way did the County Attorney resign yet from the SACC-TV-16 Bored? Of course not. Voters are used to outrages and rarely throw all the bums out.
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2008 doesn't look like a good year for republicans---but, what the Huck?  Miracles can happen.


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2008 was supposed to be the year of Hillary. Something funny happened on the way to the coronation. Boo-Hoo. Hillary and Kosiur have the same sense of entitlement. They carried the water so it's there turn. The best laid plans....

     As far as Gringo's insane ramblings, not interested in a Rotterdam lob job. Predictable response when you catch his friends with their pants down. Always look 100 years ago, or look to Rotterdam. Surprise, nothing there. Look anywhere but to the corruption, feather bedding and absurd spending in this County. Happy in the private sector making my own mark. Kosiur and Gringo should try it-stop looking for a governmental handout.
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It's a long road to the national conventions--the Democrats will have a candidate by then---but will the republicans?  I am looking forward to the republican convention which may be the first for a long, long time where there is a real convention fight not a staged show which we've seen from both parties of the past decades.


"So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past." F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby)
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so, since i know ed personally, should i go ask for a job with him and have him up my pay?
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If he doesn't know your screen name and can't figure out from your posts who you are, then give it a shot.  It can't hurt to try.

But you might wait until he's rested up from his cruise.  Planting lawn signs, hanging out with the party faithful and disrespecting other speakers at county meetings can be exhausting work.  He's earned a bit of vacation.
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Losing an election by that much earns a worldwide cruise? So Schenectady it's sickening. This is "Strawberry" Fields idea of "cutting fat to the bone"? This lob job has created a tidal wave of opposition. Remember in November. Salami will remind you.
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I doubt Kosiur will run in November--but maybe.  Amadore better start running now.  With the national elections looming there will be a bigger turnout of voters in 2008--never a plus for republicans.


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I doubt Kosiur will run in November--but maybe.  Amadore better start running now.  With the national elections looming there will be a bigger turnout of voters in 2008--never a plus for republicans.


Politicians all are running for reelection all the time...or for their next elective office goal.

I sincerely hope the 2008 general election has the biggest turnout in history.  It may be the most important election in history.

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Wasn't referring to Kosiur's political future. He's finished and cannot run for dog catcher.

     Rather, remember those that supported this lob job creation. Create a huge lob job and shorten hours in some library branches. Ahh, those sticky priorities again. Put Gary Hughes on the top of the list. As far as Assemblyman Amedore, he's taking a leaf from Tonko's tree and attending every Church dinner and card party. Amedore will be re-elected and serve as long as he wants to.
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Amadore should be publishing his accomplishments on his website.


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Yeah, good idea! He can post them right next to Paul Tonko's -especially all those accomplishments in lowering our energy prices and taxes, and making Montgomery and Schenectady Counties into booming hotbeds of economic growth!
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rotterdam Goppers are corrupt: proof:
* police advisory commission, headed by signore and mertz -- first action -- hire their friends and relatives, then disband.

* tried to ram through raises after the election and promise to pay for them by jockeying numbers in the budget --- good thing cooler heads prevailed and the issue was defeated

* tried to build ballfields on the aquifer -- mertz, an attorney, said DEC rules did not apply and town could pave over wildlife -- he was, naturally, wrong.

* fire assessor, who was doing his job, and make him a scapegoat -- the guy they put in is probably a friend or relative

* fired town attorney and hired GOP-donor attorneys to represent town board

* that's just a beginning ...


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Gringo:

That list is actually pretty much on target.


Stop stealing, the Government doesn't like competition.
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thank oyu, it is only the surface of the issue --


IMHO opinion: Birthers are nothing more than Birchers.
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Think Republican are the only ones that aren't doing their job?  Let's think back to election-time, July 2007.  YOu know, right when they wanted to put in the Sex Offendor law that they pulled from the books.  They were going to get together a committee to make decisions on how that was going to go.  Does anybody know how this is going?  Well, here's a hint for you.  

Per Rene Merrihew, post 127 at http://rotterdamny.info/m-1182421436/s-120/
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I have not heard a word.  It is a collosal waste of resources of the county taxpayers to continue this ruse. There is no intention of attacking the problem seriously or intelligently.  I predict, regardless of the recommendations of this committee there will be no changes made to the law. If the county legislature were serious about the issue they would have scheduled more than one meeting within this five month period of time.


...and back up to post 120...

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Is there anything that Ms. Dagostino can do to revert the hours back at the library? Or is this the way it will remain?

It appeared to me it is written into the budget and not much chance of being changed.  I was told I should have attended the budget public hearings.  I thought that was why we had representatives on the legislature, to fight for us.  Most weeks I have meetings I need to attend in the evening every single night except Friday. I can't usually make the county meetings as my responsibility to Duanesburg comes first.  It seems odd that a short time ago the county legislators were tripping over themselves to expand this particular library, now they are reducing the hours.  We don't ask for much out here and it seems the minimal cost of keeping the library open which is 15 to 20 miles away from the next closest branch is money well spent.  Especially considering they did away with the evening hours.  A resident stood up and said just that, and added perhaps there could be a reduction in the newly created $80,000 salary to cover the cost.  As I write this, I got a call from Joe Ryan about the street lights.  He said he has NOT been authorized to shut any off, but they are considering it.  We will work with him to see what is going on with the ones that are out.  I wanted to be sure I clarified that.  It was clear to me from last nights meeting that the people in Duanesburg are listening and paying a great deal of attention to both local and county government.  I was encouraged by the comments that were made on both counts.  Judy did not leave us a "happy camper" as no one held back their feelings on how Duanesburg is being represented (or not represented)at the county level.


And this is just 2 topics, we could continue, I'm sure...

Now, tell me what the Dems have done that's so good, besides throwing a whole bunch of tax cuts out of the last budget that would have dropped it to a tax DECREASE for the county.
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they rebuilt the county's economy.. that';s pretty good.

btw, how many times do you visit the quaker street library, btw? are u a frequent user, or are u using this issue to bash dems?

how many roads in d-berg are lighted, btw? how many are plowed? and do they still get plowed?


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they rebuilt the county's economy.. that';s pretty good.

You don't rebuild a county's economy by raising taxes and giving away people's money.  Why do you thin the crime is there?  Why do you think people are moving out of the county?  Because of the taxes.
And when they are finished with this round, how much more do you think they're going to want to make something else "better."  And who is it that should decide what is "better?"

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btw, how many times do you visit the quaker street library, btw? are u a frequent user, or are u using this issue to bash dems?


I don't use the Quaker Street library, but I bet I've been in it more often than you have.  And just because a specific person doesn't use something doesn't mean it should be shut down, does it?  Or less hours?  It serves a specific part of the community and people outside that area of the community should not be telling them how they should serve their constituents.  I think the people who run the library (at the branch, not downtown, whether it be a manager or a councilperson) know better than the legislators what they really need.  

Before any comment is made that McDonald's is not run on tax money I realize that, I'm just using the following as a point.  This is equivalent to someone saying that well, since you don't use the McDonald's in the mall and instead you go to the one on Altamont Ave., what right do you have to say anything about the one at the mall?  Then, what happens after that, they say you shouldn't be going to McDonald's, so they shut them all down, so you'll have to go to a different county (or, in this case, a different restaurant)?  

Well, when it comes to the library, there's only one chain and you can't go to another one without leaving the county (and last I checked, if you want to use on in Albany County, there's an additional fee if you're not an Albany County resident.

I'm not "bashing dems."  I'm pointing out that if you allow someone to slowly take away things they've "given" to you, it's not long before they start to take things that they shouldn't have their hands into.

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how many roads in d-berg are lighted, btw? how many are plowed? and do they still get plowed?


I'll leave this question up to someone who travels the roads out there on more occassions than I do
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"They (Dems) rebuilt the County economy that's pretty good". Classic Gringo. He made some outstanding points about Rotterdam and now back to his usual party line drivel.

     Gringo's definition of a "rebuilt County economy": 8th highest property taxes in the Nation, ignoring State mandates on hiring more Deputies for the outdated jail, plans for unneeded Downtown library addition continue, plans for unneeded SCCC Music relocation continue, Sales tax revenue far below projections, $80,000 make work jobs by passing Civil Service continue, all retail leaving Downtown and Mt. Pleasant. Working together works, to feather our nests....Have you thanked your local assessor today?
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classic gringoisms... lol. I love it.

How would you define what has happened to the local economy, if not rebuilt?

Unless I am mistaken, the largest segment on your tax bill is for school taxes -- that is where you need to focus your attention -- it increases no matter what the economy is doing. school taxes are the real burden on people-- eliminate them, and you will see the economy flourish.


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I'd suggest cutting half the county LOB employees & LEG members.  That'd be a start, and a lot easier than eliminating school taxes.
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what's a LOB?


IMHO opinion: Birthers are nothing more than Birchers.
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what's a LOB?

Multiple meanings ... in this case, it's an acronym for Legislative Office Building - aka COB - County Office Building
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ok, thought it meant lazy, obsolete buttheads in county govt. lol


IMHO opinion: Birthers are nothing more than Birchers.
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lol - as I said, it's open to interpretation.

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classic gringoisms... lol. I love it.

How would you define what has happened to the local economy, if not rebuilt?

Unless I am mistaken, the largest segment on your tax bill is for school taxes -- that is where you need to focus your attention -- it increases no matter what the economy is doing. school taxes are the real burden on people-- eliminate them, and you will see the economy flourish.


I beg to differ on this, my city and county taxes are double my school tax bill.
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Both taxes are too high. When they talk about the 8th highest taxes in the Nation, that's combined City and School taxes. Southerners are laughing at you. Our City taxes are also about twice the school. Most of the taxpayer funded buildings Downtown got both handouts and property tax breaks. But don't tell Gringo, he has convinced himself things have improved.  He's enjoying his taxpayer funded gelato. Replace your re-elect incumbent sign with For Sale By Owner.

     Gringo is right about one thing. It's time more people got vocal about exploding school budgets and ran for School Boards. The State gravy train is about to end and frills like welcome centers, fences and pools have to go. One positive development in the City, the Super is pushing for K-8 schools and ending troubled junior highs.
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Back by popular demand. Just when you thought it was safe to read this board. Another letter.

     Of course, I'm the only one obsessing over this-not. This was a peek behind the curtains, at how the "machine' operates and takes care of itself. Working together works? To help a chosen few and ripoff the masses. Few, other than Gringo who is sure something like this happen in the Chester Arthur administration (but don't ask him for specifics), are pleased.
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This entire county should be rallying to the County Legislature for handing this job treat to Kosiur!  

Talk about pandering to a pandering politician. He wasn't worth his weight in lead let alone being given an 80 plus grand a year job with benefits.

The only way things are going to change people, is to throw these damn politicians out with the next election! And to get rid of Kosiur for good once and for all!


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I wonder who put THAT letter in front of her to sign???
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This is the same puppet who wrote that Lumpy Kosiur got her kid a sundae when he got his first hit. She thought Lumpy Kosiur would make a "great" Assemblyman. Maybe a relative?

     There must have been hundreds of anti-patronage letters for the People's Gazette to print the dozen and editorial cartoons that they have. You can always find one to defend the indefensible in this County.
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The author of the Letter to the Editor is the one who is uninformed.  In his new created position, Kosiur will be earning $80K plus benefits per year.  He replaces Shawn Bargy who, with a different title but similar job responsibilities, was earning a salary in the mid $40K range.  Bargy was given a significant increase in salary and moved to a newly created county employment position in another department and in a job for which he has no education, training or experience.

So, despite Lisa Center's blatantly biased assertion, the awarding of the patronage position to Kosiur came at a cost to the oppressed and over taxed residents of Schenectady County of significantly more than his $80K/yr salary.  When you consider the increase in Bargy's salary and the benefits, the cost is in the $100K to $150K range.

Like, Joe Suhrada, I question who authored Center's letter and what her ties are to the Democratic controlled oligarchy that presently rules Schenectady County.
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This is another issue that refuses to go away, like the Van Dyke fiasco.

     If the County Legislator is serious about cost cutting, which it isn't, than this experiment with Kosiur should be immediately terminated. With so many non-profits under the Democratic thumb moving him should be simple. Here's a thought, create a position at SCCC, in the new "green collar" program. Perhaps a course taught by Mr. Kosiur in Constitutional Law focusing on pedophile relocation issues?
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found this job posting on the state website.  very interesting read, as it sounds a like what mr kosiurs job will be...but check out those qualifications.

http://www.statejobsny.com/details.asp?retrieve=9727-2008214-14567-306
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found this job posting on the state website.  very interesting read, as it sounds a like what mr kosiurs job will be...but check out those qualifications.

http://www.statejobsny.com/details.asp?retrieve=9727-2008214-14567-306


The State position pays between $79,000 and $101,000 per year and requires at least one Masters Degree and six years experience.

What do we require on the County level for a similar $80,000 per year position???
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I thought it would be interesting to share this email to all the board members and if you knew about the public meeting that was held with the issues and concerns of Ed Kosiur


Dear Mr Montana

  In your e-mail you assert that Mr. Kosiur was appointed to a position, exempt from civil service testing, for which he is not qualified.  In order to address your concerns, we contacted staff of the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission.  



    Staff of the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission advised that Mr. Kosiur received an appointment to the position of Special Assistant to Commissioner of Social Services (Youth Development) on January 1, 2008.  The Schenectady County Civil Service Commission received, reviewed and approved Mr. Kosiur’s application on February 6, 2008.  By approving Mr. Kosiur’s application, the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission is stating Mr. Kosiur meets the minimum qualifications for the position.  



    It is our understanding that the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission will be conducting a public hearing on February 19, 2008 as required by Civil Service Law, prior to submitting a request to the State Civil Service Commission to place Special Assistant to Commissioner of Social Services (Youth Development) into the non-competitive class.  The purpose of this public hearing is to allow the public to review and comment on, either in favor or against, the proposal of the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission.  For the position to be placed into the non-competitive class, approval must be obtained from the State Civil Service Commission.  



    Following the public hearing, the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission will decide whether or not to forward the request to the State Civil Service Commission.  If the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission’s request is sent to the State Civil Service Commission, all comments made at the public hearing and recorded in the minutes would be forwarded to and reviewed by the State Civil Service Commission.  To be approved by the State Civil Service Commission, the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission must demonstrate that competitive examination is not practicable and that the position is properly placed in the non-competitive class.



    Should the position be approved for placement into the non-competitive class, the appointment will not be subject to a competitive examination.



    You may obtain more information about the upcoming public hearing by contacting the office of the Schenectady County Civil Service Commission at:



620 State Street, 2nd Floor

Schenectady, NY 12305

Telephone: 518-388-4233

Fax: 518-388-4235

http://www.schenectadycounty.com/index.php?page_id\
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They got the application and approved it more than a month after this was already a done deal??

wow.
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That's they way, uh huh, uh huh, they like it, uh huh, uh huh.....
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the position i posted from the state website is also non-competetive, meaning a direct hiring from qualifications and interview with no civill service exam.  however that position has very specific qualifications for education and experience.  i'd like to see the ones for this job.
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... however that position has very specific qualifications for education and experience.  i'd like to see the ones for this job.


Ben,

This position did not exist prior to its creation for Kosiur.  I would assume that, if there are documented qualifications for this position, that they were defined to be commensurate with Kosiur's background and experience.

Those looking to challenge his appointment, which exemplifies political patronage at its worst, will be sorely disappointed when they find no legal grounds to contest his selection.
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You get the government you elect.

I'm sure there's a whole flock of sheeple who feel there's nothing wrong with Mr. Kosiur's appointment, who place the utmost trust and faith in the people they've elected to public office, would would never question, no matter how suspicious or nepotistical the appointment of a party favorite to a lucrative position for which he is clearly not qualified.

BAAAAAAAAAAA....!
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looks like the should have given lumpy a job where it would be easier to hide.

I dont blame him. Its the ones that gave him the job knowing what they were getting and doing it anyway.



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I think that the "moderates" and "independents" like Kosiur there because he can walk the "middle ground" and not really have to do anything or stand for anything, like the self proclaimed "moderates" and "independents" usually don't. Either way- it was all of you "moderates" and "non-partisans" that gave him the job, ran the deficit to 20 million, and brought about the library fiasco. Us Republicans were just too partisan for you, especially since we had Bush as the president.
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Wow so it had nothing to do with the wonderful job that Big Al was doing? It was just george? I wanted guiderelli for mayor but I am neither Rep or Dem. I based my thinking on what Jerzinski was and was not doing. Lumpy is just a wienie and they new it when they gave him the sweet seat job. I guess when someone can raise hell if they dont get something for what and who they know you have to find a way to pay them off with taxpayer money.  IE we havent heard Boo from the we hate bob alexson crew.

Still waiting for flags to be madee with potato pealers emblazoned on them

Big Al Dashes for the shut off


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How did it translate to throwing all the Republicans off the county legislature, considering the fact that there was never a 15-20 million dollar shortfall for the 40 years Republicans ran the county??? As I said- The "moderates" and "independent" swing voters threw the baby out with the bath water since they were mad at Bush, and yes, perhaps at Mayor Al as well! Although if "non partisans" were REALLY non partisan, they wouldn't indiscriminately view all Republicans as the source of all of the ills, everywhere, would they? Now you get to reap what you have sown, considering the gangsters that are in charge and show no sign of leaving! I am sure they will be heartily sent back on election day as well, no matter what their faux pas are. There aren't enough Democrats OR Republicans to get anyone elected. There is only the "independents" who decide elections, so the "independents" get to chose who is in office. You have chosen Democrats at every level in the county, almost entirely! Kosiur is but just one of your rewards!!!

And as an aside, did you really think that all that is wrong with the city is the result of the one mayor, whilst he had an entirely or almost entirely Democratic city council for his entire tenure, stretching back for 30 years in the city? It is like blaming Reagan for the deficits, or Truman for not getting anything done, or any other leader who has a group opposed to him 24/7 in a majority who roadblock the vast majority of initiatives. Another thing so-called "independents" don't take time to analyze. But they are the first to criticize all Republicans, all the time, for holding a point pf view!

Comical.
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Lumpy Kosiur is an absolute disgrace who should be immediately fired and $80,000 saved. But let's be honest here. The current County mess has little to do with so called independents mad at Bush. Last year, for 4 County seats in this City we got one candidate, evil Mayor Al. For 4 seats Gazette not 2. It's a little hard to blame Independents, Conservatives or Democrats for that. Three incumbents got a free ride and the fourth got highly unpopular Al. If you want to take back this County a full opposition slate must be put together, in every district, not just Rotterdam.
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Rotterdam could, I suppose, serve as a base for the resurgence of the republican party in Schenectady County.  Politics in Rotterdam appear to be so personal, so partisan, so local, and, sometimes, so bitter that it takes a real "insider" to sort things out.  The politicians seem adept at switching parties and switching positions in ways that an outsider has trouble figuring which side of an issue they're on.  


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http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2008/may/13/0513_print/

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Bargy’s performance anything but ‘lackluster’
Re May 11 article, “Youth Bureau leader facing harsh critics”: Shane Bargy “lackluster” performance? Where did Susan Savage, chairwoman of the county Legislature, come up with that?

My experience, and that of people who worked with him here and in the state, was quite different. Shane was a breath of fresh air. I write as a former county legislator, someone involved in the community since 1968 including coordinating the Hamilton Hill Forum for 13 years. Shane, in his role as director of the Youth Bureau, was able, collaborative and innovative. He played an important part in partnerships and the Schenectady’s Promise program — just what the county should want in an administrator. He listened, questioned and tried to find common ground.

From my observation of Chairwoman Savage and County Attorney Chris Gardner, those are skills they should try to model rather than condemn.

Jim Murphy

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Jim Murphy has more credibility than anyone on this issue. He is another Democrat fed up with the things are being run around here. Shane was a great County employee who's only fault was failing to roll over for the Party and Mr. Kosiur.

     This partisan hiring issue is not going away. The Gazette is fired up on this. Finally, they smell a rat. You can't address the exploding County deficit and continue to act with complete contempt for the oppressed County taxpayers.
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If someone disagrees with this dictatorship, they must be vilified and destroyed. Famous Soviet tactic being used here courtesy of all the "swing" voters who launched the careers and empowered Savage, et al. When did you see the old Republicans who ran the sturdy fiscal ship for 40 years in the COUNTY, do things like creamate a person's reputation when they no longer worked here so they could justify hiring their associates at fat cat wages?. Shameless behavior, and it is because you threw your baby out with your bath water. Foolish, foolish, foolish. Even hard core liberals like Mr. Murphy are shocked at the way these people lie and abuse. Democrats who worked for the county for years who were treated with courtesy by the GOP are sickened by the dictatorial treatment at the hands of these "little steamrollers."

Will the voters wake up? All the moderates and independents here who think I am too "partisan" simply because I believe in smaller government and less spending? Because I believe in accountability. Because I think political leaders work for the taxpayers and not the other way around. Now see who the partisans are...

Let's have a list, just for fun: Murphy, Meckley, Rowland, Magid, Devlin, Bargy...etc, etc. None of whom could be called "partisan Republicans" who have spoken through the press as of late. When Suhrada makes these same criticisms readers here say "PARTISAN!"




Maybe you would like it better if I had no opinions or perhaps, if I used an alter ego. I HAPPEN to be a conservative, after being an American first. I am not ashamed to believe what I believe. I don't hide my face, or use a silly name. I speak up. I am vilified by Ben, Max, and others here for critiquing this group of bandits and you say it is all political. Interesting. Nonetheless it is nice to be vindicated by people who aren't in the GOP caucus, again and again. And again. And again...
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You know, Joseph Suhrada, you really do make it incredibly difficult to agree with you.  Which is a shame.  There are those of us (and I don't think I am the only one, although I have no direct evidence to the contrary) who may often agree with your opinions, but can't quite stomach the way you present them.  Now, lord knows I can be pompous, arrogant, condescending (OK, troops, let's have some more good words here!  Extra points for the excoriating!).  Of course, I do try to control that, and to be friendly and pleasant when I post.  I do try, but I know I don't always succeed, and I am always shamed when I realize I have failed in that effort.
     But so often you start out by assuming that the entire world is going to be against you, and attacking your assumed enemies--it makes it awfully difficult to express agreement with you.  
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I have fun riling you. I do that all the time. When I grew up I was called a "scorch" by my family...

Truth be known-I have been entirely vilified by most of this board for expressing my views. If I was an alter ego and was not (knowingly) an elected official, I wouldn't be nearly as vilified. I am pointing out how since I am just a CITIZEN like you and the rest, I too have valid opinions and ideas. But because of my so-called elected status, I have been attacked. Which is fine. When I go back to being a citizen, I expect that my former reputation of "political partisan" will still stick. But I recall that when I brought these things to light, I had people jumping on me for it. I have it in my district and I had it in my political run too, twice! Don't forget, I was even sued for my free speech as well.  There are very few around that have had THAT honor!

But I STILL jump into the arena, don't I???? HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Because I NEVERRRRRRRR back down. But, like with the "sex offender" legislation, will admit a mistake. Because when it all boils down, I am still just a citizen with an opinion. Not the "partisan" some make me out to be. And when my "party" is wrong, I go against them.
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Hm.  OK.  If all of your shenanigans on this board in the last, shall we say, 6 months have been designed to rile me, then yeah, they worked.  Kinda.  But I deal with rile by thinking through and processing. . .until most of it is sludge.   So I guess I haven't provided the appropriate response?
      And, um, in point of fact (while I will admit I have probably said negative things about your posts), I don't think you can really back up the claim to have been villified by "most of this board."  That claim cries out for objective verification. . .who c